Williams was IMO the best coach that ever coached in lee co. He put together some good clubs. Im affraid that what happened to him will happen to turner. People need to go back and look at history in southwest va, football isnt won over night. The only coach I know of (im sure there are others but i dont know of em. add em if they are) that won fast and often was Coach Bolling for Powell Valley in the 1982. Not sure of exact numbers but he only coached one maybe two seasons and won state. People need to give Travis a chance. 5 and 5 would be right on pace with what both appy and pv done last year, and for a first year head coach dealing with consolidation issues (yes it was a horrible mess until school started and the law suit is still pending) of two 5 and 5 programs what more do we expect. I will support the bears just like i did the vikings, but i dont expect to come out and win state with a group of young men the first year they play together and seeing how they came from sub par programs to begin with. This isnt the 90s (although it felt like it at the first of the season) and we dont have the athelets here we used to. Most of these kids today would be second string in 95 yall know that. Lets give Travis 5 years then see. Think about it, if in 5 years nothing has changed then we move on but 5 years gives him time to get youth leagues goin with his game plan, jv program should be well established, and the kids will be set to run his program again. To give you and example, we all know what Tom Turner brought to appalachia (and before it starts i am NOT saying travis is Tom) as a head coach. Tom won 5 state championships as a coach ( 1989,1992,1994,1996,1997) and lost two others, but it took him from 1980 to 1989 to get a state championship won. My point is 9 years is longer than 5. Lets give Travis 5 years before we start bitching that he isnt any good